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DISH TV for RVs

Last Update: 5/27/2017

If you have any corrections or questions, please Leave a Reply at the end of this page.

HD = High Definition TV
SD = Standard Definition TV

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The Hopper 3 is a game changer. It’s a 16-tuner 4K video Whole Home DVR system.
However, it requires different equipment and networking than the Hopper 1 (the original) and Hopper 2 (Hopper with Sling).

Hopper 1, 2, and 3 Differences
Hopper 3 Common RV Networks
Hopper 3 Largest Network Example
Hopper 3 Three TV Network Example

Hopper 3 and the Winegard Travler
DISH Pro Hybrid Winegard Travler Upgrade
Hopper 3 Activation and Diagnostics

Using a DPH42 Switch with a Winegard Travler (One Hopper 3)
Using a DPH42 Switch with a Winegard Travler (Two Hopper 3s)
ULTIMATE HOPPER RV

How many Hoppers can be networked together? Eight I think. A DISH rep told me a customer can have up to 7 Hoppers on an account (2 leased from DISH and the rest would have to be purchased). However, I don’t think it would take much get DISH to allow 8 Hoppers. Here is how I think they can be wired together:

Eight Hoppers in a Single Network


USEFUL LINKS
1000 Plus Satellite Dish — typically used now to get international programming on satellite 118°.
1000.2 vs 1000.4 Satellite Dishes — a comparison of these two portable, open-faced dishes.
Diplexers, Triplexers, Separators, and the Winegard G2 — options for dual-tuner DISH receivers.
DISH Anywhere & Sling — remote viewing of DISH programming.
DISH Pro Hybrid Winegard Travler Upgrade — updating a Travler to work with a Hopper 3.
DISH Western & Eastern Arcs — understanding DISH’s multiple satellite system.
Hopper 3 & the Winegard Travler — getting a Hopper 3 to work with an upgraded Travler.
Hopper 3 Activation & Diagnostics — the 1st time Hopper 3 activation process.

Slingbox M1
Video Switches or “BOMBs” — the old-style way of networking TVs in an RV.
Winegard Travler — the rooftop automatic dish that does it all.


REAR PANEL CONNECTIONS

211, 211k, 211z, and Wally
612, 622, 722, and 722k
Hopper / Joey / Super Joey


WIRELESS JOEYS

Wireless Joey Networking


SINGLE TV

One 211 or 211k (HD)
One 211z (HD)
One 622, 722, or 722k (HD)
One Hopper (HD) – DUAL RG6 coax from sat dish
One Hopper (HD) – SINGLE RG6 coax from sat dish


TWO TV

One 211 or 211k (HD + SD)
One 211z (HD + SD)
Two 211 or 211k (HD + HD)
Two 211z (HD + HD)
One 622, 722, or 722k (HD + SD)
Two 622, 722, or 722k (HD + HD)
One 722k and 211z (HD + HD)
One 622, 722, or 722k and a Super Home Node (HD + SD)
One Hopper and One Joey (HD + HD) – DUAL RG6 coax from sat dish
One Hopper and One Joey (HD + HD) – SINGLE RG6 coax from sat dish
Two Hoppers – Single Network (HD + HD)
Two Hoppers – Dual Network (HD + HD)
Hopper + Super Joey (HD + HD) – corrected on 5/16/2015


THREE TV

Two 211 or 211k (HD + HD + SD)
Two 211z (HD + HD + SD)
Three 211 or 211k (HD + HD + HD)
Three 211z (HD + HD + HD)
Two 622, 722, or 722k (HD + HD + SD)
Three 622, 722, or 722k (HD + HD + HD)
One 622, 722, or 722k and a Super Home Node (HD + SD + SD)
One Hopper and Two Joeys (HD + HD + HD) – DUAL RG6 coax from sat dish
One Hopper and Two Joeys (HD + HD + HD) – SINGLE RG6 coax from sat dish
Two Hoppers and One Joey – Single Network (HD + HD + HD)
Two Hoppers and One Joey – Dual Network (HD + HD + HD)
Three Hoppers – Single Network (HD + HD + HD)
Hopper + Super Joey + Joey (HD + HD + HD) – updated on 5/17/2015


FOUR TV

One 622, 722, or 722k and a Super Home Node (HD + SD + SD + SD)
One Hopper and Three Joeys (HD + HD + HD + HD) – SINGLE RG6 coax from sat dish
One Hopper and Three Joeys (HD + HD + HD + HD) – DUAL RG6 coax from sat dish
Two Hoppers and Two Joeys – Single Network (HD + HD + HD + HD)
Two Hoppers and Two Joeys – Dual Network (HD + HD + HD + HD)
Four Hoppers – using Winegard Travler and/or 1000.2 or 1000.4 dish (HD + HD + HD + HD) – added 5/3/2015
Hopper + Super Joey + 2 Joeys (HD + HD + HD + HD) – updated on 5/17/2015


MIXED NETWORKS

Currently DISH does not want VIP receivers (211, 622, etc) connected to a Hopper network. However, early Hopper documentation from DISH showed a “mixed” Hopper/VIP receiver diagram.
1 Hopper + VIP Receiver (211z) Mixed Network
2 Hoppers + VIP Receiver (211z) Mixed Network


REVISIONS

11/22/2016
– Added Hopper 3 info.

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INCORRECT INFO IN DISH’S DPP44 INSTALLATION GUIDE . . .

The DPP44 installation guide that comes with DPP44s had some misleading information on connecting DISH’s Eastern Arc satellites (61.5, 72.7, 77).

I contacted the DISH Technical Publications department and they sent me a PDF of the current (2013) DPP44 manual.

They also said that the Eastern Arc information was incorrect and will be removed in a future version of the installation guide.

Here is a link to the 2013 DPP44 manual with markups on the Eastern Arc info.

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112 Comments Post a comment
  1. Bruce Dixon #

    I’m using a dish Tailgater as my input and 2 TV’s how would I set up for this configuration
    Thank you
    Happy new year

    December 30, 2013
    • Check under “TWO TV INSTALLATIONS” . . . depending on what 211 model you have, either
      “One 211 or 211k (HD + SD)” or
      “One 211z (HD + SD)”
      In both of these setups, one of the TVs just “echoes” what’s on the other TV.

      December 30, 2013
      • Bruce Dixon #

        Thank you
        Here is what I have, and my problems.
        I have a Roof Mount SD Winegard W104DE. Being in Oregon it won’t work in most camp sites due to too many tall trees, So I bought the Tailgater to get better reception.
        I have the VIP211K receiver. How would I set up input so I can use either sat dish.
        Does the Winegard W104DE allow two different TV’s or does it just mirror also?
        I also have the Magnadyne Video control center VCS7
        Sorry for being a nuisance.

        December 30, 2013
  2. Not a problem, Bruce, but I don’t know what a Winegard W104DE is.

    However, I think you could use an RF A/B switch to go from the WInegard or the Tailgater.

    December 31, 2013
  3. PElzey #

    Awesome information. Wow, thank YOU

    December 31, 2013
  4. Jim McEwen #

    Very nice, clear diagrams. Love a pro.

    February 15, 2014
  5. Dee #

    We have the Pay as you Go service and a 211 receiver. When i called Dish to enquire about the hopper, they said that we were unable to get it with our service. Do you know anything about this?

    March 16, 2014
  6. Dee #

    Darn.

    March 16, 2014
  7. Dean mintzer #

    How can I get eastern arc dish with kvh r4sl?

    June 1, 2014
    • It looks like you can only get sat 61.5. See the op manual.

      June 1, 2014
  8. Steve #

    I go to a park for extended stays where I must get my own Internet & TV service (the pedestals are wired with cable, it just isn’t activated). I’m thinking of contracting for cable modem service for Internet and DISH TV for TV service (my RV is pre-wired for both). My question is this: Since the RV only has one coax wiring system, can I mix the two services on the RV’s coax wiring? Has anybody successfully done that? Thanks for any input.

    June 2, 2014
  9. Thanks for taking the time to post these very helpful diagrams. Your information is invaluable to me as I start to outfit our new motor home. Our options have become more difficult since I wired our first 5’er with two 311 Dish receivers. During the last 5 years or so, we move one of our Dish 722’s to our rig when we hit the road. This worked OK as that 5’er had two TVs. Our new rig has four TVs and I am willing to bet it uses the older style RG-6.

    July 16, 2014
    • Mike, you’re welcome. Take a look at a Hopper with the new wireless Joeys — this bypasses the whole RV wiring issue.

      July 16, 2014
  10. 1mh0t3p #

    Could you please tell me what satellite finder/meter you have found works best with the 1000.4 as it has multiple LMB’s?

    Thank you so much as your hopper/joey diagrams have been invaluable!

    David

    August 26, 2014
    • I use an Acutrac III Plus which I think is no longer manufactured. However, they appear in eBay once in a while. What I love about the Acutrac is that it shows the signal strength of all 3 sats simultaneously.

      August 26, 2014
  11. Are there any current market alternatives?

    August 30, 2014
  12. 1mh0t3p #

    What about a superbuddy 29? Talked to some dish guys today and that is what they recommended?

    August 30, 2014
  13. 1mh0t3p #

    Yeah, I see the price diff. You can get them on ebay for 375 though. The other alternative was a birddog ultra until you brought up the FS meter, so it was similar in price. :-/ I will read up on the FS, does it read all 3 sats at once?

    September 1, 2014
    • I think the Acutrac III+ is the only meter that can display 3 sats at a time.

      September 1, 2014
  14. Gene #

    Tom,
    Thank you for putting these very helpful documents together. We are very new to RVing / Fulltiming and have had some challenges that we have been able to overcome with the help of folks like yourself providing great information.
    We have a Dish SK1000 with a Hopper and have recently arrived in the eastern US (currently NC). Previously we had contacted Dish to have our service address changed but they are now suggesting that we switch to eastern arc sats. I am ok with that but not sure if the 1000.4 supports that change. Do you know if it does or not? Also, if DIsh changes that settting will I need to make any setting changes to the SK1000.4?
    Many Thanks!
    Gene

    September 21, 2014
    • Gene,

      As you know the Winegard SK1000 is an automatic roof antenna. The 1000.4 is a portable dish that must be manually set up on a tripod.

      Your Sk1000 is a Western Arc dish. This just means that it can acquire DISH sats 110, 119, and 129. These sats are readily accessible in the Western US.

      The 1000.4 portable dish comes standard as an Eastern Arc dish. It can pick up sats 61.5, 72.7, and 77.

      A 1000.4 dish can be purchased on eBay. I suggest you get a good tripod from these folks: http://www.tv4rv.com

      You should also probably get a good sat meter.

      September 21, 2014
      • What Dish receiver will work with a Wineguard AS2003 RV auto roof top antenna

        October 11, 2014
      • I think a VIP 211 might work, but the AS2003 is an older unit. You should give Winegard a call.

        October 13, 2014
  15. Hello Tom,
    Thanks for all the great info… BTW I really like the URL!
    We’ve been long-time DISH subscribers (two each VIP722s DVRs) and currently reside in Pennsylvania
    We are new to RVing and have recently purchased a used MH with four TVs. We plan to eventually go full-time, we are about two years out from making that leap.

    After reviewing the various four TV setups you provide, I have a couple of things I am unclear on.

    1. MoCA connections/cables- can it be RG6 or?? What is preferred or required? I’d like to just run RG6 everywhere, is that advisable?
    2. We currently have two VIP722 DVRs, could we connect them to the Trav’ler via two fo the three connections and then provide simultaneous independent SD programming to two fo the four TVs?
    3. In the various 4 TV configurations that you provided, and you annotate the listing with “(HD + HD + HD + HD)” does that annotation indicate that the configurations provides simultaneous and independent HD programing to four TVs?
    4. Is there a configuration with the WINEGRAD trav’ler SK1000, (no additional antenna) that I could receive simultaneous and independent HD programing to four TVs? If so could you direct me to it?

    Thanks again TOM for all your work and assistance.
    Happy and Safe TRAVELS!

    October 17, 2014
    • Timothy,

      It sounds like you plan on rewiring your RV before you start full timing. That’s a great idea. While you could probably get by with the existing coax in your MH, running new cable will give you more options. For example, like using DISH’s Hopper/Joey system.

      As to your questions:

      1. MoCA cables can be RG59, essentially “bad cable” because it doesn’t require much bandwidth. But, like you suggested, I’d encourage you to only run 3GHz RG6. Why? It will give you a lot of options, like being able to use two (or three) Hoppers in your RV.

      2. With two VIP722s you can connect up to 4 TVs, each of which would have its own remote (and independent programming). Two of the TVs could be HD, but the other two would be SD. See this drawing: Three TVs (HD+HD+SD). However, in your case, you’d connect another (fourth) TV to the 2nd VIP722.

      3. Yes.

      4. For 4 HD TVs, you’ll need some type of Hopper/Joey network. Here are two possibilities:

      • 1 Hopper + 3 Joeys
      • 2 Hoppers + 2 Joeys
      • — I switched from 1 Hopper to 2 Hoppers because of the extra 3 tuners + another DVR hard drive + redundancy if one Hopper fails, there’s another one around.

      October 17, 2014
      • Thanks for the reply and the advice. So I called DISH. Apparently being a DISH customer for 15 years counts for something as they are providing me a Hopper with Sling, two Wireless Joey’s and a Super Joey, plus a $40 a month discount for the first year… all installed here at our home and no contract commitment. So my thought was that will be easy to move from my home to the coach, I hope I am I correct.

        My thinking at this point is to put the Hopper in the front cabinet and the Super Joey at the Midship TV, then run the bedroom and the outside TV on the wireless. Is there usually an RG6 from the front cabinet to the MIDSHIP TV? I have the factory wiring diagrams, hwoever, I’m not certain in looking at the diagram what symbols represent what cables? Is it difficult to run or replace cables within a coach? For example could you pull the existing component cables and replace them with RG6, while pulling along an Ethernet and or HDMI cable as well? Appreciate the help…

        October 20, 2014
  16. Brian #

    I was wondering if you help me. I just got the dish sling and hopper with(2) joyes.

    I have an rv and I couldn’t get them to work. It seems the sling is a master control.

    Can you tell me if and how this can be done.

    Thanks

    November 7, 2014
  17. Pat #

    Awesome information.

    December 5, 2014
  18. Fred G Cook #

    I am about to buy a new MH, last one I had was 30 years ago! I have Dish at home (Hopper) and a couple of Joeys. I believe the coach I am considering most has 3 TV; bedroom, main cabin and outside. I can buy the devices and my dealer said they would install them. My question is how do I deal with Dish on the service needed?

    December 14, 2014
  19. Jake #

    Is there a brand name or company that sells the RG6 (MoCA 2.0) coax cable needed for a DISH Hopper systems. Thanks.

    February 12, 2015
    • I believe MoCA 2.0 (as well as version 1.1) are both designed to operate over ordinary (i.e. not-so-good) household cable.

      The only special cable requirement for a Hopper system is the 3GHz RG6 cable between a Solo or Duo Node and the Hopper. However, if you’re up for a big re-wiring project, then redo your whole RV with 3GHz cable & never worry again.

      Here’s a link to quality 3GHz cable & tools:
      http://www.broadbandutopia.com/be500ftplbed.html

      February 12, 2015
  20. Mike Griffin #

    Tom – I really appreciate all of the work you’ve put into gathering the information available on your site. I’m ordering my motorhome next January and am looking for a place to start. I really wish it was possible to have a huge flowchart where I could just follow it and answer questions. In my setup, I know that we’re going to have 4 TVs. I am fine if there are two receivers such that a receiver’s output is shared (split) between two TVs. I would like DISH network – based on a lot of reading. We’d like to have DVRs with each receiver. I’d like to have a dish on the roof that automatically raises, finds the satellite(s) and feeds both receivers with HD. Then, if we’re under trees, I’d like to have an optional 2nd tripod-mounted dish with about 100′ of cable. With all of the receivers, options, etc. I have no idea where to begin. I’m also wondering how we’ll change channels from the back bedroom or outside when the receivers are both in cabinets at the front of the rig.

    Any suggestions (equipment, dishes, receivers, configuration) you could make would be immensely appreciated.

    Thanks –

    Mike Griffin

    April 3, 2015
    • Here goes . . . I’d suggest the following:

      • 2 Hoppers and 2 Joeys. You could also use 1 Hopper with 3 Joeys or 1 Hopper, 1 Super Joey, and 2 Joeys. However, 2 Hoppers (w/2 Joeys) gives you 6 tuners which you may definitely need with 4 TVs + if one of your Hoppers goes South (and sometimes they do), you’ll still have another Hopper.
        This system allows any TV user to watch recorded shows on either Hopper (which is essentially a networked DVR). Also, with 6 tuners each TV user could be watching a separate program.
      • Winegard Travler SK1000 rooftop automatic dish.
      • A portable 1000.4 dish with a set of Western and Eastern Arc LNBs. A 1000.4 comes with Eastern Arc LNBs so you’ll have to buy the Western Arc LNB. All of this (1000.4 dish + Western Arc LNB) can be had on eBay.
      • 3GHz RG6 Cable. This is dual cable — you would cut off 100′ or so to use for your portable and use the rest for wiring your RV. Most likely you will not need all of the remaining cable, but buying RG6 in bulk is cost effective. Note that someone will have to add the connectors to this bulk cable. However, you can purchase RG6 in set lengths with connectors — Broadband Utopia.

        Finally, who will install all this? You? Local DISH installer? Your motorhome manufacturer?

      April 3, 2015
      • Mike #

        I’m thinking of having Newmar install the wiring and the rooftop dish, then having Dish install the receivers and the extra tripod-mounted dish. Thanks for your thorough answer. I’m writing your list into my “order” spreadsheet so I’ll know what to do. Our order date has moved up to October this year (2015).

        May 10, 2015
  21. Colleen #

    Thanks for all the great info. My husband is thrilled that I found you and your site.

    My question is when you call DISH to turn off you house system (in sold status) is DISH use to FT RV’ers that want to use a Hopper and Joey? Are they use to RV’ers calling to change locations too?

    When we bought our Tailgater holy cow that took several calls before we got someone who knew what we were talking about.

    Hope I didn’t miss the info somewhere on here. Sorry if I did.

    Thanks in advance for your help,
    Colleen

    April 15, 2015
    • First, I don’t know if you have to “turn off” you house system (Hopper & Joey, right?). Just change your Billing Address. Keep in mind that you’re basically just a Billing Address to DISH. (As a full timer you should have some sort of mail forwarding address that you can use.)

      As you’ve already discovered, DISH is pretty clueless about RVers. If you’re installing/moving a Hopper system in an RV, I suggest you try a local satellite TV installer. You may have to try a couple of them as they are also not nuts about RV installs. In fact, the more YOU can do (like wiring), the better. Regardless, use a local installer instead of going direct to DISH.

      Yes, we call DISH (or use their online chat) to change our Service Address when we move out of range of the local TV stations. Lots of folks do this. Most of the time it works like a charm.

      Have fun.

      April 15, 2015
  22. Colleen #

    Thanks so much for your response, that is what were thinking but not sure of either. Thanks so much for your help!

    April 15, 2015
  23. Dean Firl #

    I am switching from a 1 hopper/1 Joey configuration to a 1hopper with sling/1 super Joey configuration. I see the need for the integrator (200235) for the Super Joey but do not understand the need for the Tap (190306). The other Super Joey diagrams I see have the Solo Node remain the same and the Integrator Client port connect tot the Moca Splitter.
    Yesterday I ordered the Hopper/super Joey/Integrator. I need to know if I need to order the Tap.

    Thanks
    Dean

    April 16, 2015
    • You don’t need the Tap if you’re just using a Hopper and a Super Joey. The Tap is in my diagram when one or more Joeys are also installed. Otherwise, w/o a Tap you’d need 3-4 lines running from portable dish to the RV.

      I should probably create a separate drawing for just your situation.

      Tx for the catch.

      April 16, 2015
  24. vicki #

    I have a very basic question.. how do I hook up winegard pathway to a joey and a hopper sling in the rv. I have several boxes from the house and would like to take them with me for long weekends instead of buying X2ViP . I tired to do this over the weekend and I was unable to get this accomplished I called dish and the rep alluded to the fact that it could be done.,

    May 27, 2015
    • The only DISH receiver that will really work with a Winegard Pathway X1 or X2 is a VIP211.

      For a Hopper/Joey you would need to use a rooftop Winegard Travler or an open-faced portable dish like the 1000.2 or 1000.4.

      May 27, 2015
  25. Tom! Help! See my post yesterday on irv2 about my frustrations with DISH (http://www.irv2.com/forums/f103/frustrating-day-trying-to-get-dish-network-info-261589.html). All I want to do is take your advice and have DISH – or someone – come install the Hopper & 3 Joeys in my RV. Also need an external sat. dish. Don’t know who to call to purchase. It’s sounding more and more like I’m going to have to order it for my house and then move it to the RV!

    September 2, 2015
    • Mike,

      I replied to your post on irv2, but . . .

      If you have a house AND an RV, you can only have a Hopper/Joey system in one of them — unless you plan on moving the Hopper and Joeys back and forth. People do it. It’s just a PITA.

      External sat dish?
      DISH 1000.4 Eastern Arc dish
      Western Arc LNBs for 1000.4

      September 2, 2015
      • Thanks – again! I guess I missed that irv2 post. But that certainly confirms what I’m thinking. Looks like I may end up with a Tailgater, two 211z’s, two RF-to-IR extenders, two external hard disks and a bunch of splitters!

        September 2, 2015
  26. Hello. Great site! I am about to start up a new house DISH service with a Hopper and a Joey. For our RV, we own a Tailgater and 211k. I asked DISH via chat if the 211k can be hooked up for a 3rd TV at home, and they said no. I see your diagram for the Mixed system. Do you have any knowledge about the current state of affairs regarding a mixed system? The guy said they could add the 211k to our account, for use in the RV. Do you think an installer could follow the diagram and connect it on our new house system? I guess the questions are 1) will it not even work off the house dish, and 2) if it is technically feasible, and I’m paying $7 per month for it, can an installer connect it? Hope I didn’t confuse anyone there….

    September 21, 2015
    • As an additional question: If it is feasible but DISH doesn’t support it, should I just start the account and then see if the installer will activate the 211k when he shows up? Or should I go through a reseller or some kind of independent installer? Not sure how to find one, but if I have to do so, I will.

      September 21, 2015
      • My guess is that an installer won’t do it — of course that doesn’t mean you can’t ask.

        However, if you have a Hopper & Super Joey or two or more Hoppers, it will not be possible for the installer to connect a 211 unless two sat dishes are installed.

        September 22, 2015
  27. Frank #

    Tom, Awesome site! I wish I had looked at it before I ordered my coach with the RTT-40B. Be that as it may, I have two VIP 211z receivers. I added a USB SSD 2 TB HD to the front receiver and called Dish to activate the DVR. No problem, everything worked well.

    A month went by and the wife wants another DVR in the bedroom. I bought an identical SSD 2 TB HD and called Dish to activate the second DVR. The bedroom DVR would recognize it, but would not stop and ask me to format it. I switched it with the front DVR and with the front receiver I was able to format it for Dish DVR and it worked just fine. I tried the front DVR which had programs already recorded on it with the bedroom receiver and I was able to call up the DVR menu, but no further. I was not able to pause or FF or any other DVR functions.

    Am I limited to just one DVR with the RTT-40B? I called Winegard and they said it should work, if I can see a signal, then I should be able to DVR it.

    Thanks for any insight!
    Frank

    January 12, 2016
    • The only problem I can think of with two VIP211s on one dome is that both receivers must access the SAME satellite — 110, 119, or 129.

      For example, if VIP211 #1 is recording a show that’s on sat 129, then VIP211 #2 can’t record a program that’s on sat 110 or 119.

      January 12, 2016
      • Frank #

        Thanks, Tom. That would be okay, but I can’t even get the second dvr to work.

        January 16, 2016
  28. Loren #

    We just updated our 2 tv’s to Smart Samsung HDTV’s. We have satellite dish (one receiver). I am trying to avoid getting another receiver for the back room. I followed your steps For two tv’s (hd+ Sd ) 211z receiver (4-16-2015). Not working. We would like to have satellite in both areas without buying a second receiver if possible. Our front TV which has the receiver is ONLY showing satellite no air TV. T back TV is only showing air TV no satellite. Could you help me with this? Thank you

    January 25, 2016
    • What sat dish are you using?

      January 26, 2016
      • Loren #

        The king tailgater

        January 26, 2016
      • Check your coax wiring. The back TV will only be able to display a signal from the 211z OR your batwing antenna. If you use DISH’s USB OTA tuner, your front TV should be able to display sat AND OTA programs.

        January 26, 2016
  29. One update to this thread. Dish says they will allow only 1 Hopper 3 on a system with the new LNBF and Node that were launched in December, 2015.

    March 13, 2016
  30. Chris #

    Will this work?

    Want to get Dish for my house with a Hopper 3 4K and 2 wireless Joeys.

    My RV will be delivered in June with a Winegard Travl’r set up for Dish as well as an in motion dome.

    The RV will have 4 TVs total.

    If I purchase 2 211Z receivers and an external DVR at a fee of 7.00 per receiver will I be able to have service in the RV without moving any equip from my house?

    Want to keep things simple and do not mind the fee.

    Thanks in advance!

    March 31, 2016
  31. Chris #

    Thanks so much!

    March 31, 2016
  32. Dick Karr #

    Tom

    Got new EA DPH for my RV along with the Hopper 3 and 1000.2 dish from Solid Signal. What bird to I used to peak the sat signal? 61.5 or 72.7? No instructions.

    May 7, 2016
  33. Dick #

    Thanks for the reply. That is right. Just after I asked the question a Dish Installer showed up at my neighbor’s house, so I went over and ask him. He said peak on 72.7, then check 61.5. May have to play with elevation slightly to peak it, but nothing else. Maybe this will be of some help to other folks. I hope so.

    May 7, 2016
  34. JoAnn #

    I have a limited budget but want to watch TV while recording other channels (more than one) on the living room TV. I have 2 TV’s in my rig, but the bedroom TV would only need to watch what has been recorded. I would prefer HD on both TV’s but it isn’t critical. What I would like to know is what are my receiver/DVR options together with dish options. i.e.,

    Dish 1 Dish 2 Dish 3 Dish 4
    Receiver/DVR
    1.
    2.
    3.
    4.

    I have been reading and researching for months and get very conflicting information and none of it seems to be clear on the ability to watch one channel while recording on other channel(S).

    Can you help?

    June 13, 2016
    • JoAnn, you have a beer budget and champagne taste going.

      With a Winegard Pathway X2 and two, DISH 211 receivers (with an attached hard drive on each), you can record a show on one 211 while watching another show on the other 211. Keep in mind that both 211s must be “watching” the same DISH sat.

      What you really want is a rooftop Winegard Travler ($1200) and a DISH Hopper DVR with a Joey.

      June 13, 2016
      • JoAnn #

        Thank you for your response. Could a manual 1000.4 with a hopper and a joey do the job? And would we be able to record more than one show while watching another?

        June 13, 2016
      • Yes and yes.

        June 13, 2016
  35. Tom,
    I set up my sk-1000 and the Hopper3 according to your directions, many thanks for that, I have one problem. When I power the Winegard up it does its search but never locks. It worked fine before I added the Hopper. Any ideas?

    June 18, 2016
    • It could be many things . . .
      – Hybrid LNB installed improperly
      – Hopper 3 connected to Travler during sat acquisition
      – Western Arc sats aren’t visible
      – You aren’t giving it enough time

      June 18, 2016
      • Thanks for the reply. Got to be 3/4 I’ll just have to be more patient.

        June 19, 2016
  36. 2brew #

    Hello Tom,

    Hope you two are doing well. As I stated earlier I am about to install the Hybird LNB, etc on our Traveler. We’re switching from the old Hopper with Sling to our new Hopper 3, a 4K joey and two wireless Joeys, which we’ve had installed for a few months in our home. My question is. My coach is parked where I can not lock onto a signal. Your instructions say to allow it to lock before I switch out the LNB, etc. However, can I remove power to the Traveler while it is searching, install the new components and stow it? Will that cause an issue? I don’t think it will, and I almost did just that yesterday evening, however, I thought I should double-check with you.
    Thanks for all you do your site and information have provided us with a great deal of viewing enjoyment, and saved me countless trips to a service center!
    Tim

    July 3, 2016
    • I’d wait until you get a lock before pulling the plug.

      July 4, 2016
      • 2brew #

        OK – I’ll wait till we are parked in a better location. Thanks Tom!

        July 4, 2016
  37. lloyd coskey #

    Dish told me they did NOT recommend HOPPER for RVs. Also said Dish with HOPPER must be installed by a professional installer. We RVers who move every few days have always connected cables and pointed dish ourselves. Explain, please

    August 31, 2016
    • Like I said before, there are a number of RVers who have Hoppers in their RVs. The FIRST Hopper install must be done by a DISH installer. Call a local sat installer and work with him. After the initial installation, you can move the Hopper in and out of your RV at your leisure.

      August 31, 2016
  38. bruce dixon #

    I purchased the new dual dish tailgator ,and 2 receivers from camping world , so that we could watch TV’s in 2 rooms and watch my programing that I have in my home, But seems if I watch a program in the living area, and try to watch another program in the bedroom, it interrupts the program in the living room. I believe I was miss lead by both dish and camping world sale people not knowing what they are selling, that I could watch two different programs. I was talking to one of the tech that installs the satellites in the homes and he told me that Dish knows they have a product that doesn’t really work very well. and that only way to watch 2 different programs is to use two antennas.
    Is there any way around this?

    August 31, 2016
    • First, some DISH technical info . . . DISH uses several sats to broadcast its programming. One set of satellites is called the Western Arc and uses sats 110, 119, and 129. Your Tailgater uses the Western Arc — and

        the Tailgater can only aim at one sat at a time

      .

      Since DISH programming is dispersed among these three sats, you can run into problems with two, different receivers. If one receiver is watching a program from sat 110, and the second receiver tries watching a program on sat 119 . . . well, you know what happens.

      You CAN watch different programs on each receiver as long as both programs are on the same satellite.

      BTW, this is the reason many of us use open-faced portable tripods or the Winegard Travler, because we can then watch any sat we want on any receiver.

      August 31, 2016
  39. Pete McMullen #

    Had Dish Tech install Hopper 3 in motor home using a drag out aimed at EA. Works great. Ordered the 1000.2 dish, Hybrid LNBF, Solo Hub, and longer arm to install on my old Winegard crank-up on roof of RV. Using a Winegard Satellite Finder SF-1000. Can’t lock onto satellite. Switched every component except the dish between roof top and drag out. Everything works on drag out but not on crank-up. Even ran feed from drag out and connected to feed from roof-top LNBF to check all coax and solo hub. Worked great. Using just roof-top equipment, no signal. Could it be wrong dish? Will this make that much difference? How can I identify correct dish? Any suggestions? Thank you.

    September 9, 2016
    • A rooftop crank up might be ok for aiming a single LNBF, but I would think it’s next to impossible to aim a three-LNBF like you’re trying to do.

      Buy a ground tripod and put a Hybrid LNBF on it.

      September 9, 2016
  40. Pete McMullen #

    Tom
    I am using a Hybrid LNBF and here the skew is 90 which is none. I will work how to adjust the skew later. Seems like I should be able to see one satellite like 72.7. What am I missing?

    September 9, 2016
    • With multi-LNBF, the dish must first be absolutely level — I’m guessing that your rooftop unit is NOT level. Also, the skew must be set before you start aiming.

      Again, I don’t think that your rooftop setup will work.

      September 9, 2016
  41. Joe #

    I’m getting ready to install a TRAV’LER DISH 1000 with hopper + joey. I have a hopper + superjoey + 2 wireless joey in the home. Can I install an access point and wireless joey in my RV? I see in the wireless joey diagram it says only one access point per account. What does this mean?

    September 28, 2016
    • You should be able to move your Hopper, WAP, and wireless Joey to your RV. You can only have one WAP per account so you have to move the one in your house to your RV.

      September 28, 2016
  42. Bill Estes #

    Hi Tom, I have been admiring your expertise for several months but have been unable to emulate your success. I have an SK1000, Hopper 1 w/Joey and Solo Node and can not get the Joey to work.
    I get HD reception on TV 1 via coax from antenna port A to port 1 on Solo Node. 19 volts at port 1, zero at port 2 on Solo Node. Tuner 3 not working, maybe not Tuner 2 either.
    No apparent signal from antenna port B when connected to either port on Solo Node. Have used external direct coax from antenna to Solo Node to eliminate possible coax problems.
    Wondering what I have missed and would appreciate your input, thanks. – Bill

    October 22, 2016
    • It would help if you had a drawing of your install. Without that, I’m guessing . . . bad Solo Node maybe?

      October 23, 2016
  43. Bill Estes #

    I’m using the Hopper/Joey coax diagram provided by Winegard:

    http://www.winegard.com/kbase/uploads/WF-810%20SK-1000%20with%20Joey%20%26%20Hopper.pdf

    I replaced my first Solo Node with another, thinking it was bad and not knowing how to test it (other than voltage check). Same results: No Joey and no Tuner 3.

    A few days ago I tested the Hopper/Joey by connecting them to a stationary dish wired via a Hybrid Solo Hub, and everything works. So the problem would appear to be SK1000.

    October 23, 2016
  44. Barb #

    My husband just installed the Winegard SK-1000 TRAV’LER Gray/Black DISH Multi-Satellite TV Antenna on our 5th wheel today. No problem with the dish install. We are using the hopper sling but can only get a few stations to tune in. We have no problems with the music stations but only a few of the regular stations tune in. Not sure what we are doing wrong. We are planning to possibly install two joys. Any hints on what we might be doing wrong to get the receiver to work. The dish is showing it is contacting satellite 110, 119 and 120. We can’t find anyone local to help with this problem. Would appreciate any help you can give us. Thanks!

    November 14, 2016
    • Did you do a Check Switch?

      November 14, 2016
      • Barb #

        I went to the setup on the receiver but if I did it I do not know can you tell me where on the menu I look for doing the check switch?

        November 14, 2016
      • You’ll have to contact DISH. I’m not familiar with Hopper w/Slings anymore.

        November 14, 2016
  45. Donald Niemeyer #

    I recently completed my traveler upgrade for the hopper3. After I finished the upgrade I hooked the traveler to my Dish 722 receiver, it worked perfectly without the solo hub. I then had the dish tech out to install my hopper3. It also ran great for two days. When we tried to reset it, it would startup and after refreshing the screen would go black. The dish tech came that day and replaced the hopper3 but took out my AB switch saying that was probably the problem. Have you had any problems with your AB switch? I think it was just a bad hopper3 and would like to put it back in. Do you have any input? Also, I was reluctant to store the traveler and then reposition it before the Dish tech came out to install the hopper3. Am I correct in thinking if it doesn’t pick up the sattilites after storing that I need to switch the two nonsignal coaxes on traveler? Thank you.

    December 1, 2016
    • I’m confused. You upgraded your Travler to a Hybrid LNB for your Hopper 3. Yet you also have a VIP722 receiver — how did you swing that? I didn’t think DISH allowed that.

      Also, what are the “two nonsignal coaxes”?

      Finally, it worked and then it didn’t work after two days? What did you do? Sorry, but the fact that you connected a VIP722 to a Hybrid LNB makes me suspect that you did something else wrong.

      December 1, 2016
  46. Donald Niemeyer #

    The only thing I didn’t do was install the solo hub. We watched tv on the 722 until the tech came to install the hopper3 which was three days. No problems. The tech hooked up the hopper3 with the AB switch and solo hub in the the line. We had a great signal from all three sattilites and worked perfectly. After basically two days we could not get the hopper3 to work. The tech came over with a new hopper3 and when he saw the AB splitter in the line he took it out and ran the line right to the solo hub and the the new hopper3. He could check the signal on the old hopper3 and saw that we still had a great signal from all three sattilites so he put in the new one. And, after the long setup process it worked and works great. The tech told me to leave the AB switch out of the line. Not a big problem as I can easily reach the connector to disconnect for positioning the traveler. My question was, do you still use your AB switch in the line and if so are you having any problems? Also, since I didn’t reposition the traveler after installing the hybrid LNBF, if when I do test it and it won’t pick up the sattilites all I have to do is switch the coaxes between B and C on the turret to correct the situation. I know I have port A connected right cause we have a good signal.

    December 1, 2016
  47. Donald Niemeyer #

    You’re right, the tech took the 722 with him when he left after the installation of the hopper3. They don’t allow you to have both. I just wanted you to know the hybrid LNBF will work with the 723 without the solo hub in the line.

    December 1, 2016
  48. Larry Jenkins #

    Tom,
    We have 2 211z receivers with a winegard Pathways x2 antenna. In looking through these documents, it looks like we can get the hopper system with a joey. Is that correct? That is what we had at our house bedore we started fulltiming and it was so much better. If that system is available, I will look theough the docs more closely and see if I can do it. Thanks so much for all the great info you provide regarding satellite tv and parks.
    Thanks Again,
    Larry Jenkins

    December 3, 2016
  49. Vee Butterfield #

    I have two VIP722K receivers with about eight SD TVs sharing the two SD outputs from the VIP722K. It works great. Just using standard TV splitters and get a good signal of all TVs. I run HD TVs on the both receivers. I’d like to upgrade to a Hopper 3 and maybe one or two Joeys. Problem is there is no coax output to run to the SD tvs. Spent an hour on the phone tonight with DISH (sounded like he was in India) and he said I couldn’t mix a 722 with a Hopper. He said I could hook the SD tvs directly to the DISH antenna and they could mirror one more of the HD signals from the Hopper or Joey. I’ve gone through all your diagrams, but don’t see how to hook up this combination. I’d like to be able to keep my SD tvs connected via their COAX input. Any suggestions. I almost upgraded to Direct TV, but have decided to stay with DISH a little longer, as I think they have a better system, although more expensive for me (after having my system for nine years). It’s tempting to switch and get the introductory pricing and then to switch back when the price jumps. Sad they don’t help their long-time customers with price breaks. Thanks for this site! It is great.

    December 30, 2016
  50. Mike Griffin #

    Tom,

    I’m having my Directv rooftop dish converted to a DISH Network compatible dish as I write this. Also having a Hopper and two Joey’s installed. They are also putting setting me up with an external tripod-mounted dish antenna.

    I’ve seen a lot of the tripod dishes in RV parks and I mentioned to the installer that I have really been wanting one. I told him that everyone had told me that they had it down to about five minutes to set it up. When I said this, he said “But do they have Hoppers?”. I didn’t know.

    The installer says that external tripod-mounted dishes are difficult to set up with a Hopper because they’re more sensitive. He recommended that, whenever I want to set it up, I call a professional installer to do it. WHAT???

    I’ve been a computer scientist for 30 years, and have confidence that I can do this myself. But I’d like to know what you think about the level of difficulty. I’ve got the stuff to help me make sure that the tripod is level, and a bought a digital satellite finder (my installer said to throw it way because they’re worthless).

    Thoughts? Any specific tips and/or equipment I should have to help me point the external dish?

    Thanks, Tom!

    Mike

    April 17, 2017
    • Yes, a DISH tripod can be a PITA to set up. I’ve been doing it for over a decade, and it’s still a pain. However, I made my life considerably easier when I bought a Super Buddy 29 sat meter: used Super Buddy 29.

      It’s an expensive meter, but it makes DISH setup a snap.

      The manufacturer of the Super Buddy 29 has replaced it with the XR-3, a more expensive meter of course, but there are still used 29’s out there to be had.

      Finally, are you having a “plain” Hopper with Sling installed or a Hopper 3?

      April 17, 2017
  51. Don Niemeyer #

    I installed the hopper3 per your instructions and schematics. I couldn’t be happier. When the technician came and installed the hopper3 he wouldn’t do I with the AB switch in the line. After he left I put it back in. Its been operating flawlessly ever since. No problems deploying the dish. The only problem I’ve ben having is the wireless joey keeps dropping the signal from the wap. Any suggestions? I think I’ll put a wired Joey in when I get back up north and see how that works. Also wondering if you’ve run into any problems with your setup. Really appreciate your instructions.
    Don

    April 17, 2017
    • Sorry, wireless Hopper/Joey is not my forte — try posting on one of the RV forums like Escapees.

      The only intermittent problem I’ve run into with my Hopper 3/Winegard Travler install is what I call the Crazy Ivan.

      April 17, 2017
  52. Don Niemeyer #

    what’s the remedy?

    April 17, 2017
  53. Don Niemeyer #

    Crazy Ivan happened the first time tried to deploy the dish, but it hasn’t happened since. I think probably 6 times.

    April 17, 2017

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