HughesNet vs HughesNet

Or, a Tale of Two Sat Services.

When we arrived in Canada, I was hopeful that I would be able to get Internet service via our HughesNet Gen 5 dish. However, I had doubts since our Gen 5 HughesNet doesn’t “cover” most of Canada.

That’s the rub. The “old” HughesNet (or Ku-band for the geeks) covered wide areas while the newer Gen 5 HughesNet (or Ka-band) uses smaller, focused spot beams.

 

With the older Ku-band (“Your father’s HughesNet”) satellite Internet service, you could get service in much of Canada and Alaska. The only “gotcha” was signal strength. The further north you went, the weaker the satellite signal (measured in dBW). So in the far north you needed a .98M or 1.2M satellite dish — that’s about 39 and 47 inches, respectively. Those are big, unwieldy dishes.

On the other hand, Ka-band HughesNet Gen 5 service pretty much stops at the Canadian border.

 

Nevertheless, Banff was pretty close to one of the HughesNet Gen 5 spot beams (Beam 6), so I gave it a try.

I tried to fool the HughesNet software that I was actually in Fairmont Hot Springs (which is just inside Beam 6) and not at Banff.

And I got close to getting a signal, but after several days of tweaking the satellite dish, I threw in the towel.

 

One of my forum commenters, Al Morgan, found the same thing about HughesNet Gen 5 Canadian coverage:

Hughes Net should work up to about Fort Macleod in Alberta but as you’ve found out, no further.

Banff Diary

BANFF NATIONAL PARK OF CANADA (Elevation 1,383 m or 4,537 ft)

Tunnel Mountain Trailer Court (Read about how we booked our Banff campsites here)

July 24, Wednesday – Arrived at Banff from Radium Hot Springs at about 1:30 pm after driving THROUGH the town of Banff. Horrid. Our GPS failed us. Should have taken us to next exit (see map below). We’re in Site 145 for two nights.

Set up HughesNet dish. Didn’t work. Put up DISH TV tripod. It worked. Spokane, WA local TV stations!

 

 

 

 

July 25, Thursday – Day of rest at campsite. Take down both sat dishes as we’re moving to a different campsite on Friday for just one day.

 

July 26, Friday – Moved to site 845. Day of rest. Put up DISH TV tripod. It worked. Took Flirt on 2.5 mile walk around campground perimeter.

 

Drove the Jeep into Banff for groceries at the IGA. Every parking spot taken . . . in all of Canada! Horrid.

 

July 27, Saturday – Moved to site 141, the dream site, for a week. Put up HughesNet dish. Still not working. Didn’t have to put up DISH tripod as our rooftop Winegard Trailer worked.

 

 

 

July 28, Sunday – Jan went to the Banff IGA groceries at 8 am. She was actually able to park the Jeep with ease.

 

July 29, Monday – Filled up Jeep with gas in Banff. Horrid. Then drove up to Lake Louise in early afternoon. Every parking lot full. Turned right around and went back to Banff. Lovely. Drove through Banff thinking we would get lunch. Have we not learned? Cleaned our RV’s inside AC filters.

 

 

July 30, Tuesday – slept in. At night we dined out at Park Distillery & Restaurant in Banff. Very good. Took a taxi there and back! We’re learning.

 

 

 

 

 

July 31, Wednesday  – up early (for me). Jan & I decided not to drive or take the bus to Lake Louise. It will have to live in our imagination. We both realized that after 4 months and 3,700 miles we’re tired! From now on we’re only going to use park bus service or tour busses to get around. The summer destination spots are full of people to the gills. Recharged our water softener.

 

August 1, Thursday – took the bus to “The Cave & Basin National Historic Site”. The bus rides to and from were the highpoint. While waiting for the outbound bus, we met a Canadian mother and daughter. The daughter was taking her day off to have lunch with mom and do some hiking. Utterly charming duo. Also met a Dutch couple who had traveled to both US and Canadian parks this summer. Delightful. Met an English couple who failed to make reservations and who made 110 phone calls in a day searching for a place to stay in Calgary. Yikes!

 

 

When we arrived at the historic site, I thought they were having plumbing problems. Wrong. Jan thought the smell came from a nearby horse trail. Wrong again. The Cave part of this site is a sulfurous hot spring with the overpowering smell of rotten eggs. As we ventured deeper into the Cave, as we must, the smell allowed for a 5-second stay when we arrived at the end of the cave where there’s a hot springs sulphur pool . . .

 

The High Point of our Cave & Basin Excursion . . . the Bus Ride back to the Campground . . .

Over our bus’s scratchy PA system, our Asian bus driver tried to explain all the ins and outs of our bus route. But pretty much everything he said sounded like “I’m taking the laundry to my daughter’s soccer practice.”

However, he was really, really trying to communicate, so kudos Mr Fumi for the attempt.

 

 

August 2, Friday – disinfect RV water tank day, a once every 6 months bleach adventure.

Tried to unscrew the water filter housings, but they wouldn’t budge. So the whole water filter assembly had to be removed. Then the filters could be replaced.

 

August 3, Saturday – Bye Banff!

 

PARTING SHOTS

Would You Like More Data?

Internet connectivity can be problematic in Canada. Basically, if the campground doesn’t supply WiFi, you’re screwed unless you brought your own.

We kinda-sorta brought our own. Our Verizon plan includes Travel Pass which doles out 500 MB of Internet data a day in Canada. This amount resets each day. But we usually use much more data than this. However, once we used up that 500 MB, the following message would appear on my iPhone:

 

I said “Yes” many many times.

 

Flirt vs Ground Squirrels

These guys would pop out of their numberous holes like Wack a Moles. Drove Flirt nuts. She would plunge her snout down every squirrel hole she encountered.

 

 

Radium Hot Springs

We moseyed our way from Cranbrook to Radium arriving a little after 1 pm. A short, scenic drive.

Our campground, The Canyon RV Resort, is down a long, really steep road. The “prime” campsites abut the Sinclair Creek, a fast flowing, pristine stream that goes through the middle of the campground. We’re in the cheap seats in the balcony row:

 

We’ve experienced some exceptional scenery during our trip, but Holy Cow is this area of Canada beautiful. Many of the streams we drove past were turquoise and there was still snow on some of the mountain peaks.

 

 

 

PREPARING FOR BANFF

We’ll be heading to the Trailer Court Campground in Banff on Wednesday, but decided to get the jump on things by purchasing our Parks Canada “passes” . . . actually two annual, over 65, Discover passes . . .

 

We also investigated part of the mountain road to Banff because we were concerned about how steep it was. Turns out, pretty steep.

In less than 10 miles from Radium, the elevation changes from 808 m (2651 ft) to 1480 m (4856 ft) with stretches of grades staring at 11% (yeow!), then 6%, and finally 8%. While it didn’t seem like too much while driving up in our Jeep, our 18-year-old RV handles a bit differently. Though our motorhome’s diesel has enough torque, you have to be very careful not to let the engine overheat. We’ll see tomorrow.

 

FINALLY . . .

There a good chance we won’t be posting anything while in Banff. There’s no WiFi, our Verizon data is limited, and our HughesNet Gen 5 sat dish may not work up here.

O Canada!

We crossed the border into Canada yesterday afternoon and were immediately set upon by armed Canadian militia who have imprisoned us in chain link cages.

Just kidding.

It was a lonnnng trip (for us) from the Spokane area to Cranbrook, BC. About 5 hours. We’ve been used to driving less that 100 miles for a while, so this trip was a haul.

Nevertheless, we camped at the Crandon / St Eugene KOA (Kampgrounds Of America). We usually avoid KOAs as they are the McDonald’s of campgrounds — pricey, not much substance, but a guaranteed level of mediocrity.

However, the Cranbrook KOA was different from the get go. It was the sign on the office that clued us in . . .

 

The Ktunaxa Nation opened this KOA just a year ago in 2018. So, firstly, the campground is brand new, but it’s the “room service” that got us — They Deliver Food to Your RV Site.

So after a 5-hour drive nothing beats having a burger delivered to your motorhome door. Yowzah!

The campground is spread out with great views of nearby mountains . . .

 

Also, the KOA is built several kilometers (not “miles” anymore) from town and it’s next to the St Mary River . . .

 

CANADA OBSERVATIONS . . .

• We have been able to mingle freely with the inhabitants. I guess we’re passing as Canadians.
• The local Safeway only had Eveready and not Duracell batteries. Also, no Keebler cookies. Plus, they don’t sell wine or hard stuff in the Safeway. Had to travel to a liquor store, but found Tanqueray 10!!! Been looking for that ambrosia for ages.
• So far it’s been debit/credit card only. No cash.
• Though DISH satellite TV worked just fine (and with Spokane local stations), HBO wouldn’t let us stream the Little Big Lies finale as we were no longer in the US.
• Finally, as soon as we crossed the border my AT&T Mobley died and Verizon switched over to TELUS with a 500 MB daily data limit, but the KOA WiFi saved the day.

 

Crow Butte Park (Paterson, WA)

We stayed at camp site #28 in Crow Butte Campground for five nights. It was great!

Many of the sites are large pull-throughs and there’s plenty of space between sites. Though the Columbia riverside sites, including ours, are close to the river, you have to walk through narrow trails to get down to the river. Plus, there are rattlesnake warnings everywhere.

 

 

 

There’s a small swimming beach near the park. Flirt loved it, but it was wading depth only.

 

 

While we were investigating the beach, several flocks of pelicans flew over our heads.

 

The campground is full of sycamore trees that are “shedding”. Mowing the grass becomes something new.

 

Finally, during our first night we saw a line of blinking red lights in the distance. Airport? UFO landing base? Neither. Turns out they were aircraft warning lights on the tops of wind towers. Weird, but interesting.