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How Should We Fix Our RV’s Rear Cap?

As you may or may not know, on August 25th we damaged the Rear Cap of our RV:

We’ve been debating how to fix the damage, so we thought we’d ask some of the online RV forums:

We posted photos of the damage (like the picture above) and asked what would be the estimated cost of repair?

Here are the summarized results . . .

HOW MUCH TO FIX?

From RV Forum (www.rvforum.net):

Isaac-1 – My guess is you can get that fixed for under $7,000 if you take it to Mexico.

Skookum – I agree with the others who have posted so far…that’s several thousands of dollars worth of damage. If you put 20 hours on it at $100/hr, minimum 2k and I bet it’s more.

From IRV2 (www.irv2.com):

amosnandy – As an insurance adjuster, just from the pictures I would estimate between $20,000 & $25,000.
The cap needs to come off, repair both sides and there is likely damage to the inner structure.

Ray.IN (25,969 posts) – amosnandy is right, unless the rear cap is irreparable. If that is the case, the only option is to locate a good used rear cap somewhere. If one cannot be found you’re looking at the MH being totaled.

From RV.net (www.rv.net) . . .

way2roll – To get a proper estimate I think you’ll have to take it to a shop. And although there is no visible interior damage, water intrusion can mess things up a bit.

JoeH – I would guess $5k, +/- $1.5k.

valhalla360 – If it’s just cosmetic, you might be lucky and get it done for $5-7k.

Grit dog – Personally I’d say $5k is on the high side.

HOW DID THE ACCIDENT HAPPEN?

Forum users seemed much more interested in HOW the accident happened than answering my question on cost to repair. Many of them predicted what might have occurred.

From RV Forum (www.rvforum.net):

Old-Crow (3,405 posts) – The only way I can see this damage occurring is if the tow bar came disconnected and slid under the coach when he stopped.

Mark_K5LXP (2,708 posts) – If the tow bars were not aligned so the RV end is higher than the toad end, during a hard stop the inertia will push the front of the toad up and it can hit the back of the RV. Note how high up the damage is. So it’d be my observation the tow bars weren’t aligned properly.

Gary RV_Wizard (76,539 posts) – The toad was somewhat higher than the hitch pivot point, so the toad “climbed” in the hard stop, pivoting the tow bar upward and literally lifting the front of the toad off the pavement. Best practice for a tow bar is to have it dead-level or at slightly upward angle to the coach receiver. I prefer the up-angle, thus forcing the toad to dive under rather than climb. That helps keep the toad wheels in contact with the road.
The other thing this implies is inadequate toad braking in a hard stop. Many owners intentionally adjust the braking to be light and delayed relative to the coach, fearing brake drag on long downhill grades. That usually yields little or no braking in a panic stop.

From IRV2 (www.irv2.com):

WHSouthwind – Did the jeep pivot up without disconnecting. Looks like that’s what happened. High impact point.

From RV.net (www.rv.net) . . .

zigzagrv – I cannot understand how the Jeep did that unless the Jeep flipped up???

Grit dog – Out of curiosity though I can’t figure out how it didn’t hit lower on the Moho, like in the bumper area.

HOW DID THE ACCIDENT ACTUALLY HAPPEN?

After a sudden stop, our Jeep actually pivoted up on our tow bar and crashed into our RV’s rear cap.

How?

First, our Demco toad braking system was disabled. Our Jeep’s battery was dead so no brakes. At the time we were on our way to an auto parts store in Lompoc, CA to pick up a new battery. No irony here.

Second, Lompoc, CA. This small city has water swales on many of its streets. These swales are shallow culverts right across the road and unmarked by any signage. We encountered a pair of these swales while driving at speed (25 mph) though a Lompoc suburb. Our speed was too fast. When we hit the swales, our RV seemed to take a nosedive and we panic braked . . . the rest is history.

Third, our tow bars were installed and aligned properly and not the cause of the accident as some suggested.

Our two bars weren’t the problem

THE BEST ADVICE WE RECEIVED

In three posts on RV.net, we think RickJay offered the best comments and advice . . .

Sorry to hear of your accident. I know it’s a 21 year old rig, but still relatively new to you, so boo-boos like this seem to have an extra-sting to them when they happen. Still, keeping a focus on the overall age of the rig might be helpful.

Due to the age of the rig, it’s possible this won’t be covered under his insurance. For example, on our rig (almost as old as the OP’s) we have “limited collision” which only pays when another driver causes the damage, so it wouldn’t cover an incident such as this. So this quite possibly might be an out-of-pocket expense for them.

Heck, depending upon how much longer I intended to have the rig, I could probably even convince myself to make it water-tight (a good, white tape, perhaps even Eternabond?) and just live with it.

Did you say Eternabond?

HOW WE’RE GOING TO FIX OUR RVthe “Safari” Solution

First, we will not try using our collision insurance. At best, even if it covered the repair, our rates would most likely go up. No thanks.

Second, we will not attempt fixing the fiberglass ourselves. We don’t have the tools nor the skill. We’re not going to fall victim to the Dunning-Kruger effect.

Third, it will be a DIY fix. Our local RV shop doesn’t do body work and the nearest shop is too far away – and most likely too expensive for us. We think it would be foolish investing possibly thousands into a 21-year-old RV.

We’re going with the under $500 “Safari” fix . . .

Plywood (painted of course) & Flip-Toggle Bolts . . .

. . . my wife is an artist

Cloverdale/Healdsburg KOA

We don’t usually write about KOAs that we stay at because, well, they’re the McDonalds of campgrounds – mediocre, average, and unsurprising. You always know what you’re getting.

However, the Cloverdale KOA is different . . . and then some.

First, it’s a long and winding 4-mile road into this KOA. It’s narrow, tree-ey, and one-lane in a spot.

It’s worth the drive.

Our campsite #15

Pool has a view of a winery

Superb rural setting

Jalama Beach – Final 3 Days

Well, it started off nice . . .

Night time cloud show

Sunset Sounds

THE Burger Store

Flirt’s Chair

And then this happened Saturday afternoon (the day before we leave) . . .

We lost power to the RV. Unbeknownst to us we were running on just our batteries for a few hours, and the batteries dropped to 38% capacity – VERY bad.

Luckily we ran our generator to restore our batteries

Long story short . . . our Surge Guard unit gave up the ghost. The Surge Guard is what protects the RV against electrical faults from campground power. You betcha. The unit was less that 1 year old. When we arrived at our next campground, we tried plugging it in again to a new power source, but nada. The Surge Guard is toast.

Luckily, we were able to “re-wire” (actually reroute) our power cables so that we could connect to shore power without going through the now dead Surge Guard.

Not as complicated as it looks

But wait, there’s more . . . at 1:25 am . . .

At 1:25 am our Carbon Monoxide alarm went off . . . loud BEEP, BEEP, BEEP . . .

So, after opening all the RV windows, the detector still beeped, so I clipped its power wires and we went to sleep.

We were alive in the morning.

Jalama Beach, CA – First 3 Days

After 3 days on the beach, there’s much to report . . .

Good News – 9-Year-Old Gas Cards Still Worked

When we started full timing 9 years ago, we were given Mobil gas cards. Well, they still work!

Bad News – Needed new Jeep Battery

After our first night’s stay in the Lost Hills KOA, our Jeep failed to start. Bought a new one in the Lompoc, CA O’Reilly auto parts store and changed it out in the parking lot . . .

Out with the old . . .

More Bad News – Damaged the Rear Cap of our SeaView RV

Yikes! Though there was no serious structural damage, it will still be pricey to fix.

It happened while taking a detour through this posh Lompoc, CA suburb. As we drove over a speed bump (actually a “valley”), Jan hit the brakes and the front of the Jeep rose up really fast and hit the rear cap of the RV.

The ladder will be the cheapest thing to fix

Been watching a lot of fiberglass repair videos on You

Great News – Jalama Beach

After traveling down a literally long and winding road to the ocean, we arrived at Jalama Beach at about 5 pm on Monday the 25th.




Flirt meets the Pacific Ocean

Oil-lama Beach

On our 2nd day we took a short walk to the beach and back. On our way back to our RV, we noticed a really strong tar smell. Turned out that we had inadvertently stepped on one of the tar balls (or turds) that litter the beach. The shoes that we used are now stored outside until we clean them with acetone.

Oil Turds on the beach

There are a couple of oil platforms just off the coast that we figured were leaking. However, a park ranger clued us into the Coal Oil Point Seep Field (Google it) . . .

The “largest”? Oh goody.

Jalama Burger

A great end to the first three days on the beach . . .

Get the Onion Rings, don’t bother with the fries

Oak Fire – 3rd Time is the Charm?

8/7/22 Update: As of 6:59 pm the Oak Fire is 19,244 acres with 94% containment.

8/1/22 Update: As of 6:53 pm the Oak Fire is 19,244 acres with 74% containment.

7/29/22 Update: As of 7:38 am the Oak Fire is 19,208 acres with 45% containment.

7/27/22 Update: As of 3:54 pm the Oak Fire is 18,715 acres with 32% containment.

7/26/22 Update: As of 9:24 am the Oak Fire is 18,087 acres with 26% containment.

7/25/22 Update: As of 8:56 am the Oak Fire is 16,791 acres with 10% containment.

7/24/22 Update: As of 6:59 pm the Oak Fire is 15,603 acres with 0% containment.

7/23/22 Update: As of 9:10 pm the Oak Fire is 11,900 acres with 0% containment.

FRIDAY, JUNE 22

We’re getting ready to leave for our RV trip this Sunday. So on Friday afternoon while walking down to our RV, I saw this . . .

June 22, Friday, 3:30 pm

Yep, another wildfire near us. It’s called the Oak Fire, and it started in Midpines which is about 7 miles from us.

At about 5 pm, I took this picture from the Pioneer Market grocery store . . .

Looking north east from the Pioneer Market entrance at 5 pm

Jan and I decided to get our RV out a day early and load it up so that we could leave in a hurry.

By 8:20 pm the fire was about 1,700 acres and growing when I took this picture from inside Idle Wheels RV park . . .

We were all getting anxious as the fire had quickly grown to 1,700 acres

As we took our evening walk around Idlewheels, we met a couple who had been evacuated from Midpines and were staying in their camper at Idle Wheels

Shortly thereafter we saw another camper in the street set up for the night . . .

SATURDAY, JUNE 23

Sunrise
Campers filling up a Mariposa parking lot
As of early Saturday the fire the Oak Fire is up to 6,500 acres

Since we arrived in Mariposa, we knew wildfires were a fact of life, and this is one of the reasons we bought the RV . . . so that we can get out of Dodge in a hurry.

Also, we investigated “escape” routes . . . roads that we could use to get out of town. These are colored GREEN in the map above:

  • Highway 49 – the northern route of this road contains hairpin turns and steep drop offs making it the worst escape route. The southern route towards Oakhurst is one of the best ways. However, part of the road is now closed because of the Oak Fire.
  • Ben Hur Road – we discovered this road when we camped at Codorniz Campground on Eastman Lake. While much of this route is ok, some of it gets very bumpy.
  • Highway 140 – this road leads to Merced and is probably the best escape route. Part of this road was closed due to the Aqua Fire, but Highway 140 is now reopened.